[IRTalk] Fwd: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier

Wed May 18 12:24:30 SAST 2016

Paul's comments are spot on. This is one of the powers of a distributed
system - nobody can buy it outright.
One has to wonder what are the motives, when people talk about ONE system
to do things or to begin a consolidation of concerns??

In the ideal world there are many distributed IR's that are harvetsed by
central harveters such as SHARE in the USA.
See: http://www.share-research.org

*Hilton Gibson*
Stellenbosch University Library
*http://orcid.org/0000-0002-2992-208X
<http://orcid.org/0000-0002-2992-208X>*

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Paul Walk <paul.walk at bath.edu>
Date: 18 May 2016 at 10:53
Subject: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" <goal at eprints.org>

"The software may change, but you can't sell off a distributed network of
independent repositories.”

I agree, and I think that this is the crucial point. The software doesn’t
matter (well, it does matter, but it doesn’t affect this principle). It’s
about the distribution of *control*.

We are truly fortunate to have a global, distributed infrastructure of
institutional repositories which are (mostly) under institutional control.
This is quite an unusual arrangement these days - and I think we should
regard it as precious and inherently powerful in its denial of the
possibility of “ownership” by one party.

We should do what we can to both hang on to this infrastructure, and to
exploit it more fully, in pursuit of a better scholarly communications
system.

Paul

> On 17 May 2016, at 22:06, Leslie Carr <lac at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> The software may change, but you can't sell off a distributed network of
independent repositories.
>
> Prof Leslie Carr
> Web Science institute
> #⃣ webscience #⃣ openaccess
>
> On 17 May 2016, at 21:35, Joachim SCHOPFEL <
joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr<mailto:joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr>>
wrote:
>
> Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional repositories
worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the green institutional
repositories can be replaced by other solutions, can't they ? Better
solutions, more functionalities, more added value, more efficient, better
connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals etc.
>
> ----- Mail d'origine -----
> De: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum at gmail.com<mailto:amsciforum at gmail.com>>
> À: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <goal at eprints.org<mailto:
goal at eprints.org>>
> Envoyé: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:18 +0200 (CEST)
> Objet: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
>
> Shame on SSRN.
>
> Of course we know exactly why Elsevier acquired SSRN (and Mendeley):
>
> It's to retain their stranglehold over a domain (peer-reviewed
scholarly/scientific research publishing) in which they are no longer
needed, and in which they would not even have been able to gain as much as
a foothold if it had been born digital, instead of being inherited as a
legacy from an obsolete Gutenberg era.
>
> I don't know about Arxiv (needless centralization and its concentrated
expenses are always vulnerabe to faux-benign take-overs) but what's sure is
that the distributed network of Green institutional repositories worldwide
is not for sale, and that is their strength...
>
> Stevan Harnad
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bo-Christer Björk <
bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi<mailto:bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi>> wrote:
>
> This is an interesting news item which should interest the
> readers of this list. Let's hope arXiv is not for sale.
>
> Bo-Christer Björk
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:
>        Message from Mike Jensen, SSRN Chairman
> Date:   Tue, 17 May 2016 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From:   Michael C. Jensen <admin at ssrn.com><mailto:admin at ssrn.com>
> Reply-To:
>        support at ssrn.com<mailto:support at ssrn.com>
> To:     bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi<mailto:bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi>
>
>
>
> [http://papers.ssrn.com/Organizations/images/ihp_ssrnlogo.png]<
http://hq.ssrn.com/GroupProcesses/RedirectClick.cfm?partid=2338421&corid=4024&runid=15740&url=http://www.ssrn.com>
     [http://static.ssrn.com/Images/Header/socialnew.gif]
>
>
> Dear SSRN Authors,
>
>
> SSRN announced today that it has changed ownership. SSRN is
> joining Mendeley<https://www.mendeley.com/?signout> and Elsevier<
https://www.elsevier.com>
> to coordinate our development and delivery of new products and
> services, and we look forward to our new access to data, products,
> and additional resources that this change facilitates. (See Gregg
> Gordon’s Elsevier
> Connect<
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/ssrn-the-leading-social-science-and-humanities-repository-and-online-community-joins-elsevier>
post)
>
>
> Like SSRN, Mendeley and Elsevier are focused on creating tools
> that enhance researcher workflow and productivity. SSRN has been
> at the forefront of on-line sharing of working papers. We are
> committed to continue our innovation and this change will enable
> that to happen more quickly. SSRN will benefit from access to the
> vast new data and resources available, including Mendeley’s
> reference management and personal library management tools, their
> new researcher profile capabilities, and social networking
> features. Importantly, we will also have new access for SSRN
> members to authoritative performance measurement tools such as
> those powered by Scopus<https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/scopus> and
> Newsflo<
http://hq.ssrn.com/GroupProcesses/RedirectClick.cfm?partid=2338421&corid=4024&runid=15740&url=http://www.newsflo.net
>
> (a global media tracking tool). In addition, SSRN, Mendeley and
> Elsevier together can cooperatively build bridges to close the
> divide between the previously separate worlds and workflows of
> working papers and published papers.
>
>
> We realize that this change may create some concerns about the
> intentions of a legacy publisher acquiring an open-access working
> paper repository. I shared this concern. But after much discussion
> about this matter and others in determining if Mendeley and
> Elsevier would be a good home for SSRN, I am convinced that they
> would be good stewards of our mission. And our copyright policies
> are not in conflict -- our policy has always been to host only
> papers that do not infringe on copyrights. I expect we will have
> some conflicts as we align our interests, but I believe those will
> be surmountable.
>
>
> Until recently I was convinced that the SSRN community was best
> served being a stand-alone entity. But in evaluating our future in
> the evolving landscape, I came to believe that SSRN would benefit
> from being more interconnected and with the resources available
> from a larger organization. For example, there is scale in systems
> administration and security, and SSRN can provide more value to
> users with access to more data and resources.
>
>
> On a personal note, it has been an honor to be involved over the
> past 25 years in the founding and growth of the SSRN website and
> the incredible community of authors, researchers and institutions
> that has made this all possible. I consider it one of my great
> accomplishments in life. The community would not have been
> successful without the commitment of so many of you who have
> contributed in so many ways. I am proud of the community we have
> created, and I invite you to continue your involvement and support
> in this effort.
>
>
> The staff at SSRN are all staying (including Gregg Gordon, CEO and
> myself), the Rochester office is still in place, it will still be
> free to upload and download papers, and we remain committed to
> “Tomorrow’s Research Today”. I look forward to and am committed to
> a successful transition and to another great 25 years for the SSRN
> community that rivals the first.
>
>
> Michael C. Jensen
>
> Founder & Chairman, SSRN
>
>
>
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