[IRTalk] Theses and Institutional Repository

Mon Apr 24 11:28:42 SAST 2017

Thanks so much Bruce. These are very important comments. From what you wrote - DOIs must be implemented and assigned to IR items, for citation purposes, in addition to the persistent repository handle. And yes - smooth ORCID integration needed. I suppose it is ok to either use Crossref or DataCite?

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From: brucellino at gmail.com [mailto:brucellino at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Becker
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:18 AM
To: Ina Smith <Ina at assaf.org.za>
Cc: Tyson Mabunda <ttmabunda at uj.ac.za>; Ansie Van der Westhuizen <vdwesapj at unisa.ac.za>; irtalk at lists.lib.sun.ac.za
Subject: Re: [IRTalk] Theses and Institutional Repository

Hi Ina, all.

I'm going to go a bit off-topic, please excuse me :)

As I've mentioned before, I'm not from the IR space, but come a background that is first research, and then infrastructure development. In my world, we take it for granted that data is distributed _and_ that it is uniquely identified, so that we can access and process it from anywhere, and that in 20 years it will still be citable and findable. The infrastructure that DataCite e.g.
is building on top of DOIs is making it - the metadata search tool, the integration with ORCID, the various APIs that research software engineers can rely on in order to consume and publish entire datasets
- is making it a great time to be a scientist.  There is a very slow uptake of DOIs in South Africa, from what I can see (please send me counterexamples !) and this is really stifling the development of other data infrastructure.

When I completed my Ph.D. 10 years ago (!), I had to deposit my thesis with UCT, and it's still available in the library, but I had no way to cite (not to mention store) the TB of simulated data that went along with it. The documentation of what I did with the code was published but the code itself was not. In fact, the code that generated those simulations which my Ph.D. rests on is lost now and my Ph.D. has become something closer to an informed opinion than actual science.

This process of publishing the code is now so easy that it is almost malpractice _not_ to do something like make a new release in Github ingest it to Zenodo with a DOI. I'd had to see IR's in SA left out of this new generation of data-centric scholarship. I don't know what kids these days are doing, but when it comes to my workflow, it starts with an Overleaf project for the paper, (which is a git repo), and a git repo for the code. It doesn't matter whether that's a project to build and test distributed computing facilities or confirm the analysis of a physics dataset - everything is code, and this is at the heart of how we see reproducibility.

Long story short, we really need to show practical workflows which answer questions like "where do I deposit my thesis", that make it so easy to do that people just fill out a few forms, and have that contribution turn up on their ORCID page the next day...

And yes, realistically the response of most researchers and students in many domains to what I've just written might be "dude, what are you on about ?" - to which I say "Chill and let the librarians take care of it".

I'd love to lend a hand on whatever I can, so if anyone feels like I've touched on something important, let's work on it :)

Happy Monday all !
Bruce

On 22 April 2017 at 11:24, Ina Smith <Ina at assaf.org.za> wrote:
> I think also keep in mind how you plan to monitor usage and impact of full text duplicated. Many IRs have not implemented DOIs yet, and rely on the persistent URL generated by the system, with the expectation that metadata will be harvested, rather than the full text being duplicated.
>
> I agree with Bruce that the DOI will guarantee consistent citations, if people learn to cite correctly (which unfortunately they do not always do). If DOIs are implemented and cited, DOI systems also provide usage/impact statistics, which can be used for reporting, tracking usage and impact, which might lead to funding etc.
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> From: IRTalk [mailto:irtalk-bounces at lists.lib.sun.ac.za] On Behalf Of 
> Van der Westhuizen, Ansie
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:58 PM
> To: Bruce Becker <BBecker at csir.co.za>; Tyson Mabunda 
> <ttmabunda at uj.ac.za>
> Cc: irtalk at lists.lib.sun.ac.za
> Subject: Re: [IRTalk] Theses and Institutional Repository
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> Dear Tyson
>
> I am responsible for the Unisa Institutional Repository (http://uir.unisa.ac.za) which is an open access repository. We are allowing linking of our ETDs by other institutional repositories, but not uploading of the fulltext. In other words, a record  may be created in the other repository, but a link should be created to the handle in the UnisaIR from where the full-text/ object may be accessed.
>
> Regards
>
> Ansie van der Westhuizen
> Non-commercial Digital Developer
> IR Content Management: Collection Development Unisa Library
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IRTalk [mailto:irtalk-bounces at lists.lib.sun.ac.za] On Behalf Of 
> Bruce Becker
> Sent: 21 April 2017 2:22 PM
> To: Tyson Mabunda <ttmabunda at uj.ac.za>
> Cc: irtalk at lists.lib.sun.ac.za
> Subject: Re: [IRTalk] Theses and Institutional Repository
>
> Hi Tyson,
>
> I'm not a librarian, but I bump into this kind of issue all the time, 
> and it mostly raises questions of uniqueness and discoverability 
> (others have commented on the IP aspects)
>
> In principle there shouldn't be a problem with depositing the object in more than one repository - as long as the DOI is the same, and the metadata is clean.
>
> I stand to be corrected on this, but for example the DataCite schema 
> allows you to deposit identical objects 
> https://schema.datacite.org/meta/kernel-3.1/example/datacite-example-r
> elationTypeIsIdenticalTo-v3.0.xml
> - this could be used...
>
> The whole point of having DOIs is to ensure that objects are persistently available even if they move or if  copies are destroyed, so it would make sense to have them in more than one library. You need to make sure that you are however describing a _copy_ of the object, and not depositing a new object, so that OAI-PMH is not confused, etc.
>
>
> Maybe have a look at https://data.datacite.org/ and 
> https://schema.datacite.org/
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> On 21 April 2017 at 14:07, Tyson Mabunda <ttmabunda at uj.ac.za> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues
>>
>>
>>
>> UJ staff member completed her Thesis (year:2010) at TUT as TUT 
>> student, and now she want her Thesis available on the UJ repository.
>>
>>
>>
>> How do you handle such request?
>>
>>
>>
>> NB: the copyright owner of the Thesis is TUT
>>
>>
>>
>> Univ of Namibia –example: http://41.205.129.132/handle/11070/1910
>>
>>
>>
>> Let’s talk
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>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Tyson Mabunda
>>
>> UJ Institutional Repository
>>
>> University of Johannesburg
>>
>> 0115592688
>>
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