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<font color="#000000" face="arial, sans-serif">A snippet from the email mentioned. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><b><font color="#ff0000"><br>
</font></b></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><b><font color="#ff0000">We should demand subscription cancellations to free up funds for infrastructure development, such that we can wean ourselves from the dependence of corporate publishers with orthogonal interests from ours</font></b>.</span><br clear="all">
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Cheers</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Murray Rust</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.murray.rust@googlemail.com">peter.murray.rust@googlemail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: 24 March 2014 12:29<br>Subject: Re: [Open-access] Crowdsourcing request + BMJ OA Policy<br>To: Bjoern Brembs <<a href="mailto:b.brembs@gmail.com">b.brembs@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:open-access@lists.okfn.org">open-access@lists.okfn.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:open-access@lists.okfn.org">open-access@lists.okfn.org</a>><br>
<br><br>Yes<br>
I think we have to get this issue to citizens get them to demand info from universities lobby politicians etc<br>
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On 24 Mar 2014, at 09:13, Bjoern Brembs <<a href="mailto:b.brembs@gmail.com">b.brembs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Saturday, March 22, 2014, 12:06:01 PM, you wrote:<br>
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>> We clearly underestimate how backwards the Open Access<br>
>> community is compared to Wikipedia, the F/LOSS movement<br>
>> and Open government. Publishers can drive holes through<br>
>> legislation and there are only a few of us to protect the<br>
>> commons. I am disappointed that University libraries<br>
>> aren't more active and knowledgeable.<br>
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> I share your disappointment, but what other options do we have? I think Richard Poynder hit it the nail on the head in many ways:<br>
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> <a href="http://poynder.blogspot.de/2014/03/the-state-of-open-access.html" target="_blank">http://poynder.blogspot.de/2014/03/the-state-of-open-access.html</a><br>
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> If we keep working with publishers, we get what we deserve. Just this morning again, I read about yet another publisher turning their backs on scientists:<br>
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> <a href="http://retractionwatch.com/2014/03/21/controversial-paper-linking-conspiracy-ideation-to-climate-change-skepticism-formally-retracted/" target="_blank">http://retractionwatch.com/2014/03/21/controversial-paper-linking-conspiracy-ideation-to-climate-change-skepticism-formally-retracted/</a><br>

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> Nothing to do with licenses, but still outrageous.<br>
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> If we keep treating publishers as viable options for our intellectual output, this is what we have to deal with.<br>
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> So if libraries don't do what we'd expect them to do, maybe it's time for us to demand the infrastructure we need for our texts, software and data?<br>
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> We should demand subscription cancellations to free up funds for infrastructure development, such that we can wean ourselves from the dependence of corporate publishers with orthogonal interests from ours.<br>
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> Let's help our libraries help us, instead of wearing them thin, torn between the demands of their faculty and those of the publishers.<br>
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> Before we can demand anything from libraries, we need to provide them with the wherewithal to actually deliver. Support subscription cuts now!<br>
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> Bjoern<br>
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> --<br>
> Björn Brembs<br>
> ---------------------------------------------<br>
> <a href="http://brembs.net" target="_blank">http://brembs.net</a><br>
> Neurogenetics<br>
> Universität Regensburg<br>
> Germany<br>
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